Comments on Holomaxx post

I’m putting together a longer analysis of the Holomaxx case that will look at the claims against the various defendants. There’s some deep mis-understanding of how various things works (hint: wiretapping? not so much).
There was one comment from “The Other Barry” about complaints that I think bears highlighting.

Silly people.  High complaints means filters need to be more aggressive.   “Not Spam” reports means the filters need to be less aggressive.  Low complaints means the filters are accurate.

The Other Barry is someone who has real world experience managing filtering for a large ISP.
In other comments, Steve White is excited to see ISP filtering come under judicial scrutiny. I’m not sure why, there is plenty of case law around filters already. There’s even US law stating ISPs can filter. But, hey, I’m sure some lawsuit from a company no one has ever heard of before will be sufficient to turn over 10 years of precedence.

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